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The Oak by Digistump => Oak Support => Topic started by: zekiel on January 05, 2016, 10:43:55 pm
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I got an Oak today but I give up after looking for any information on how to communicate with or program it.
Wiki? No entry and even search shows zero results. Google? Nothing. Kickstarter? Specs and api but nothing else.
It shows up as an Acorn wifi access point but what's the ip? Is the USB for power only? Ugh.
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From Erik's Kickstarter Update #12 ..."If you get your Oak before the next update, please give us a few days to finish getting everything in place. Our next update will provide details on how to set it up and get started."...
They choose to get the HW out first in hopes that the firmware update would soon follow instead of delaying HW delivery. I have many of their products and have no reason to doubt them following through. Patience is in order.
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Ah! Thank you. Will chill out and wait a few days then.
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The product is useless without software. Why would any company ship a product that can't be used. You should have held up shipping unit you could ship product.
This is not what I expected. I bet you are too busy hustling at CES to support those who backed you during the Kickstart. Own up to your commitments and make
this right.
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konakcc, chill out. Shipping and manufacturing in China is unpredictable. I'd rather have parallel paths of both software and hardware and have a working product sooner instead of holding up one for the other to complete.
This is Kickstarter, not some glossy Apple launch
Plus like exeng said, this guy has done it before and is reliable. Not like other projects I've backed:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fairduino/smartduino-open-system-by-former-arduinos-manufact
:)
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@zekiel, fully agree! Got sucked into the great yellow scam myself...
I'm a happy Particle Photon user, and am fully confident in Erik's ability to leverage Oaks in the same environment soon.
I do have one ironic nit - the Oak Support forum still isn't accepting "Oak" as "one of Digistump's two main products" :-(
-John
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I'll cut them some slack, first round kickstarter is unpredictable. It's an interesting device, I own a Proton, seems very similar, even the same IDE and a bit cheaper. The URL printed on the board is "digistu.mp/oak". Can someone at stump please post a statement there? That way others won't have to hunt this forum down.
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Checking the wiki regularly is turning into a bad tease. The Oak section gets added but the only pages that are populated are for shields that we can't use because the getting started guides aren't populated. Am I missing something?
Edit: Crap, I haven't been this frustrated since high-school. Checked back and got all excited that the quick start guides on the wiki had been published. Clicked the link and !damn! a "Sorry we are not ready yet" message.
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I plugged mine in and I can see it when searching for WIFI as ACORN-...
SO I connected to it and found the IP it was using is 192.168.0.1 then entering that into a browser gives me text that says Soft AP Setup.
Not sure if this means anything but maybe someone else might know?
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Not sure if this means anything but maybe someone else might know?
We are all in the same boat, software isn't ready yet. Keep checking the quick start guide on the wiki until they post setup instructions.
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No kidding. This is not a retail-boxed product off the store shelf. It wasn't even bought in an online store. It is a reward for helping bootstrap an idea that you think is a good one. If you didn't like the idea and didn't support it to help get it off the ground, then you should have waited until others did and Digistump turned it into a completely marketable product before you ponied up the dollars. And yes, when you fund on kickstarter, indiegogo, etc. be prepared to lose your money. There are no guarantees. The Oak is already a success story. Even if digistump never posted a single sentence worth of instruction, so many really intelligent people have this in their greasy hands that they community would document it for them.
That said, I hope they will publish the wiki pages well before they believe them to be fully refined. We are all champing at the bit to start playing. I for one am anxious to get this hooked up to a microcontroller to remotely regulate the temperature, humidity, and airflow in homemade sausage curing chamber. I'm sure those of us who first try to implement a project using the Oak will have decent input to provide for the wiki.
All I have inferred so far about the device is that:
- on power-up it creates a wifi network called ACORN-###### (a hex number) that appears to have SSID 'undefined' to any of my windows 8 computers but appears correctly on android devices.
- Connecting to it gives me an IP of 192.168.0.2, with the ACORN device itself being 192.168.0.1
- Browsing (http) to port 80 gives me a non-interactive page that just says 'Soft AP Setup'.
At this point I'm stumped. (har har)
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I connected to the RX/TX pins to my terminal using USB. I see something but cannot even figure out the baud rate the serial interface is using. Come on guys throw us a bone here.
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Using a Saleae Logic 4 I determined that the TX/RX output is sent at approx 57600 baud (autobaud returned 77000). I've attached the boot time output that I got.
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"OakBoot - V1" - love it! 8)
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I still can not move forward on the OAK. The arduino code won't download because it says I need some other account which won't log me in or register a new account.
When are you going to fix this? The last response was "After CES". This is still not working. This is not how a kickstarter is supposed to work. Please fix this ASAP
or I will have to contact the Kickstarter group as well as the Press.
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Sounds like you either don't have a particle.io account or you have not run the 'oak' command to let the arduino environment have access to the Oaks credentials.
I have twice followed the instructions at http://digistump.com/wiki/oak/tutorials/arduino (http://digistump.com/wiki/oak/tutorials/arduino) and it worked both times. We won't talk about the first attempt, but that goes along with getting to play with really new stuff.
On item that doesn't seem obvious is the need for a particle.io account.
https://build.particle.io/signup (https://build.particle.io/signup). Thanks to ajpowell for the particle.io URL.
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The last response was "After CES". This is still not working. This is not how a kickstarter is supposed to work. Please fix this ASAP
or I will have to contact the Kickstarter group as well as the Press.
I usually leave non-constructive criticism alone - but I wanted to correct one thing here: I've never mentioned CES, I've never mentioned "after CES" as a deadline. The firmware is late, as are many things in this project, I've given my reasons for that and I'm working hard to pull everything together very quickly, your opinion of all that you are of course welcome to express here - but I have no idea where the CES accusations come from - maybe another project (I think Sesame is using that as one reason they are 1 year late). I've never been to CES, have never considered going, and spend all of my time either caring for my family or working on this project - that's literally it - I haven't taken so much as a weekend off since this project started, so it seems worth setting the record straight about that.
You are most welcome to contact anyone you'd like - but first you may want to contact me directly if you are so very unhappy with it all, I'd be happy to accept a return for a refund.
I'd be happy to help you get them working when the first non-beta release happens next week, and lots of people here would be happy to help you even before that - but to do that we need some more details from you:
"The arduino code won't download because it says I need some other account which won't log me in or register a new account."
What Arduino code - can you send a link or screenshot of where you get stuck? The only account you should need is a particle.io account which you can signup for as part of the setup in the config app.
Thanks to all those who have responded here with helpful hints and kind words!