Author Topic: Watch out for the clones!  (Read 16359 times)

MichaelMeissner

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Re: Watch out for the clones!
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2013, 04:09:58 pm »
Yep, I didn't mean to imply I thought it was a problematical clone.  From the description, I could tell it wasn't a clone, but an enhancement, and as I look at a 2nd or 3rd time, it is clear it is meant to add to the digispark ecosphere.

bobricius

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Re: Watch out for the clones!
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2013, 01:03:10 am »
Interesting from an eyesore became adapter which is just a waste adapter between USBASP and Picoduino that is a true clone. Yes I admit. Overpriced? Maybe, but there's almost a year of work, four generations of boards. None pick & place only hours tweezers and handicrafts. I sell on ebay or tindie.
Erik is a true genius, invents that is possible sell small board of several components at a price that sells Chinese Arduino uno, and I am very grateful to him, because the design of the tiny85 is unique, no crystals, only the most necessary components and all pins are used. Although I decided to let reset enabled. It is more serviceable and programmable via usbasp.

My work, of course, again I'm not happy with.

... power led and reset button is on back side
http://www.sardravce.sk/bobor/pico1.jpg

... great combination tiny85, rgb led, ds1307, on back side 24c512 and battery holder, switch trasistor for relay, in next generation will have output on connector, now is only on test point :(
http://www.sardravce.sk/bobor/pico2.jpg

... and this is only tiny85 based small wav player, of course now discontinued, redesigned and new wersion will realy great
http://www.sardravce.sk/bobor/wav.jpg
http://www.sardravce.sk/bobor/wav2.jpg

I am very sad that I have no time for programming, only the PCB design. But promises to bring to this community a lot of inventive ideas. I plan on talking watches, eeprom wav player, oled display, step motor driver, RTTTL player and more. But at present spend time with my two young children somewhere will take away the mail envelope when something sells and I buy some extra components or PCBs.
I not get rich on it, just earning some money so I can develops new things.


digistump

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Re: Watch out for the clones!
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2013, 01:42:37 pm »
A new one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Olimex-OLIMEXINO-85-KIT-arduino-ATTINY85-Micronucleus-tiny85-Digispark-Trinket-/310795764274

This one is definitely a respectful derivative - see blog which gives us credit and my comments: http://olimex.wordpress.com/2013/10/23/look-mom-i-can-shrink-arduino-even-more-and-it-cost-only-eur-4-00/

It's cool they are using the Digispark version of the IDE - that seems to be gaining lots of traction, perhaps I should add Trinket support to it too!

Mark

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Re: Watch out for the clones!
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2013, 08:37:00 pm »
Well deserved acknowledgement including Bluebie.

Congrats
Mark


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Re: Watch out for the clones!
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2014, 01:51:56 am »
Now that is cheeky, produce a clone and use someone Else's software.

Mark

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Re: Watch out for the clones!
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2014, 07:39:43 am »
Well the software is Open Source, so that's sort of the point of that, letting anyone use it.  It is however a bit cheeky to point at someone else's website, rather than hosting it yourself.  There are ways to configure a webserver to look at the referer page, and return different content depending on that.  I haven't looked at it, but it's quite possible that clicking on a link in a PDF may return to the name of the PDF to the server as the referer, in which case you could trivially return something "interesting" or even vaguely malicious (like a download of a large randomly filled file).

Whilst having a real USB connector on that board, rather than relying on a PCB connector is nice, I don't quite see why they've limited that board to only four IO lines, rather than all six.  Having an eight way header, rather than the six way one they've used, wouldn't take up much more space, but would increase the number of available IO lines by 50%.

cpldcpu

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Re: Watch out for the clones!
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2014, 08:58:27 am »
I just spotted this:

https://www.tindie.com/products/BBTech/attiny85-usb-development-tool-board/

If I am not mistaken, it is rather a Trinket clone. But it comes with micronucleus. It even has the newest version, quite industrious!

Edit: It has optional pull-up resistors for I2C. This is new, isn't it?
« Last Edit: January 22, 2014, 09:04:21 am by cpldcpu »

gogol

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Re: Watch out for the clones!
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2014, 08:14:23 am »
Hi cpldcpu,

I just spotted your clone: http://cpldcpu.wordpress.com/2014/04/25/the-nanite-85/

That really looks like as the crown of the evolution of the attiny-boards!  Compliments!

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Re: Watch out for the clones!
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2014, 11:04:24 am »
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.156.FkcdAS&scm=1007.77.0.0&id=20373031373&pvid=c914065f-196a-4fef-9da7-d9640d015d52&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=&pm_id=


But we sure hope you'll agree that our soldering and finishing comes out a bit nicer!

Yours are way better.. sad they didnt even change the writing, or even change the starting sketch that is uploaded. It even says model A and B still...



This one seems to be violating our license on the Digispark name and using our photos (not that we'd have much luck challenging a product on taobao - we won't try):


http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.PsNnMb&id=20137319692

Strange thing about that one is that they don't show any photos of their actual product - if it didn't cost so much ($25!) we'd buy one just to check it out.


They actually are not violating anything. If you check the top, they clearly labeled it as the Digispark on kickstarter. If anything, they are reselling them, not sure if that violates anything however.


gogol

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Re: Watch out for the clones!
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2014, 08:32:31 am »
for sure, as Erik stated, that rev 3 made it not out to public!
Rev3 never made it out of the factory due to a mistake on it - so we went right to rev4.