Author Topic: Quick start?  (Read 13760 times)

zekiel

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Quick start?
« on: January 05, 2016, 10:43:55 pm »
I got an Oak today but I give up after looking for any information on how to communicate with or program it.

Wiki? No entry and even search shows zero results. Google? Nothing. Kickstarter? Specs and api but nothing else.

It shows up as an Acorn wifi access point but what's the ip? Is the USB for power only? Ugh.

exeng

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2016, 11:09:07 pm »
From Erik's Kickstarter Update #12 ..."If you get your Oak before the next update, please give us a few days to finish getting everything in place. Our next update will provide details on how to set it up and get started."...
They choose to get the HW out first in hopes that the firmware update would soon follow instead of delaying HW delivery. I have many of their products and have no reason to doubt them following through. Patience is in order.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2016, 09:01:15 am by exeng »

zekiel

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2016, 11:23:01 pm »
Ah! Thank you. Will chill out and wait a few days then.

konakcc

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 08:00:29 am »
The product is useless without software.  Why would any company ship a product that can't be used.  You should have held up shipping unit you could ship product.
This is not what I expected.  I bet you are too busy hustling at CES to support those who backed you during the Kickstart.   Own up to your commitments and make
this right.

zekiel

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2016, 10:30:20 am »
konakcc, chill out.  Shipping and manufacturing in China is unpredictable.  I'd rather have parallel paths of both software and hardware and have a working product sooner instead of holding up one for the other to complete.

This is Kickstarter, not some glossy Apple launch

Plus like exeng said, this guy has done it before and is reliable.  Not like other projects I've backed:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fairduino/smartduino-open-system-by-former-arduinos-manufact
:)


JohnP

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2016, 03:38:52 pm »
@zekiel, fully agree!  Got sucked into the great yellow scam myself...
I'm a happy Particle Photon user, and am fully confident in Erik's ability to leverage Oaks in the same environment soon.

I do have one ironic nit - the Oak Support forum still isn't accepting "Oak" as "one of Digistump's two main products" :-(

  -John

bruceme

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2016, 04:47:53 am »
I'll cut them some slack, first round kickstarter is unpredictable.  It's an interesting device, I own a Proton, seems very similar, even the same IDE and a bit cheaper.  The URL printed on the board is "digistu.mp/oak".  Can someone at stump please post a statement there?  That way others won't have to hunt this forum down.

punknubbins

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2016, 09:34:29 am »
Checking the wiki regularly is turning into a bad tease. The Oak section gets added but the only pages that are populated are for shields that we can't use because the getting started guides aren't populated. Am I missing something?

Edit: Crap, I haven't been this frustrated since high-school. Checked back and got all excited that the quick start guides on the wiki had been published. Clicked the link and !damn! a "Sorry we are not ready yet" message.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2016, 05:07:21 pm by punknubbins »

jamz

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2016, 01:37:45 pm »
I plugged mine in and I can see it when searching for WIFI as ACORN-...

SO I connected to it and found the IP it was using is 192.168.0.1 then entering that into a browser gives me text that says Soft AP Setup.

Not sure if this means anything but maybe someone else might know?

punknubbins

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2016, 05:09:26 pm »
Not sure if this means anything but maybe someone else might know?

We are all in the same boat, software isn't ready yet. Keep checking the quick start guide on the wiki until they post setup instructions.

rmacmorran

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2016, 04:14:19 pm »
No kidding.  This is not a retail-boxed product off the store shelf.  It wasn't even bought in an online store.  It is a reward for helping bootstrap an idea that you think is a good one.  If you didn't like the idea and didn't support it to help get it off the ground, then you should have waited until others did and Digistump turned it into a completely marketable product before you ponied up the dollars.  And yes, when you fund on kickstarter, indiegogo, etc. be prepared to lose your money.  There are no guarantees.  The Oak is already a success story.  Even if digistump never posted a single sentence worth of instruction, so many really intelligent people have this in their greasy hands that they community would document it for them.

That said, I hope they will publish the wiki pages well before they believe them to be fully refined.  We are all champing at the bit to start playing.  I for one am anxious to get this hooked up to a microcontroller to remotely regulate the temperature, humidity, and airflow in homemade sausage curing chamber.  I'm sure those of us who first try to implement a project using the Oak will have decent input to provide for the wiki.

All I have inferred so far about the device is that:
- on power-up it creates a wifi network called ACORN-###### (a hex number) that appears to have SSID 'undefined' to any of my windows 8 computers but appears correctly on android devices.
- Connecting to it gives me an IP of 192.168.0.2, with the ACORN device itself being 192.168.0.1
- Browsing (http) to port 80 gives me a non-interactive page that just says 'Soft AP Setup'.

At this point I'm stumped. (har har)


Luminaric

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2016, 11:30:46 am »
I connected to the RX/TX pins to my terminal using USB. I see something but cannot even figure out the baud rate the serial interface is using. Come on guys throw us a bone here.

djflix

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2016, 04:20:10 am »
Using a Saleae Logic 4 I determined that the TX/RX output is sent at approx 57600 baud (autobaud returned 77000). I've attached the boot time output that I got.




flyashi

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2016, 06:36:20 am »
"OakBoot - V1" - love it! 8)

konakcc

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Re: Quick start?
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2016, 02:15:25 pm »
I still can not move forward on the OAK.  The arduino code won't download because it says I need some other account which won't log me in or register a new account.
When are you going to fix this?  The last response was "After CES".  This is still not working.   This is not how a kickstarter is supposed to work.  Please fix this ASAP
or I will have  to contact the Kickstarter group as well as the Press.